i think president obama -- i do not think he did as badly as the pundits are saying this morning. i think the next debates, he will probably have a different demeanor. i think the debate last night was much more important to miss -- to mitt romney and barack obama. i do not know how much this really changes the landscape, because this race is very competitive. if you look at the eight battleground states, depending on the polls, president obama is winning on all of them, but the margins are pretty close. i think the other thing that debates could do for the democrats and the president and also for the voters, for our side, too, it signals the date is on, and you will see much more enthusiasm. people talk about the enthusiasm gap. a firm that does the polling for nbc news, within one sub group, latinos -- of au are the conspiratoria left-wing appalling -- >> barack obama had 50% with latinos, the poll is their enthusiasm was less than in 2008. >> glen, my thinking had been while it was inadequate -- mathematically possible for romney to get to 270 electoral votes without ohio, mich